I have three issues with this story. First I don't understand why it is that if a person walks down the street naked by themselves they will be charged with public nudity (and likely carried off to the looney bin to boot) but when it happens in a parade it's OK.
Next, the fact that the trustees voted down a resolution on requiring police checks for all their volunteers because it would make some of them feel uncomfortable is ludicrous! So are they not concerned that if a pervert volunteers and assaults a student, that child might feel 'uncomfortable' or is that OK with these Toronto Trustees?
Finally, no one... and I am sure I mean NO ONE, wants to see the arse-end of someone as wide as the 'gentleman's' derrière in the photo accompanying this story. It's disgusting and sensationalistic.
So be forewarned if you choose to click on the link below. You might just lose your lunch!
Toronto trustees reject Pride Parade nudity motion | Toronto Star
Next, the fact that the trustees voted down a resolution on requiring police checks for all their volunteers because it would make some of them feel uncomfortable is ludicrous! So are they not concerned that if a pervert volunteers and assaults a student, that child might feel 'uncomfortable' or is that OK with these Toronto Trustees?
Finally, no one... and I am sure I mean NO ONE, wants to see the arse-end of someone as wide as the 'gentleman's' derrière in the photo accompanying this story. It's disgusting and sensationalistic.
So be forewarned if you choose to click on the link below. You might just lose your lunch!
Toronto trustees reject Pride Parade nudity motion | Toronto Star
It is only mid morning here in Arizona, so I lost my breakfast. Some people insist on making asses of themselves, some literally, and some figuratively. The Pride parade is about loss of shame and not about Pride at all.
ReplyDeleteThe end is nearer than it was, and shameless leadership is likely to hasten it.
I don't have any issues with public nudity. I don't find it disgusting or sensationalistic, and even if I did find it to be so, I can always choose not to watch. So can everyone else.
ReplyDeleteMichael Brandon you chose to look at a mans bare bum even though you were forewarned about how sick it might may you feel? Is this the first time you have been exposed to a nude male body? Have you ever wathched any porn on the net or tv or magazines in your life? You didnt know what to expect here even after Fr. Tim warned you?
ReplyDeleteWhy would the sight of a nude male ass make you physically sick? What does it make you think of? What maybe are you afraid that it will make you think of. What perhaps are some of the profound aroused by these images that stimulate deep inside you and perhaps cause you to react with such a fearfull , repulsive and decisive attitude ? It seems there is a powerful need to prevent such desire from from even entering consciousness.
BTW...the link below this one I see tw o men hugging.TSTSTS
ReplyDeleteThe irony is in the fact that I felt sick before I saw this ( I think it was bcause I smelled to much bull poop in one dose) and now I feel much better!
Larry: I had no problem with that photo. Expressions of affection no matter who they are shared between is fine with me. The photo I took umbrage with was the one of the two naked butts walking west taken from the eastern angle. It put me in mind of Laurel and Hardy - and I never fantasied about them buck naked. The photo proved to me that I was right in never wanting to set my eyes on that sight.
DeleteBut I've got to ask you: are you in favor of the right of anyone who want to to walked naked on public streets? If someone was doing that on your street when the kids were small, would you be concerned? Were I in your shoes, it sure as hell would have bothered me.
It has nothing to do with the gender or sexual orientation of that person. It's simply that if people will not respect such a basic a boundary as wearing clothes in public, does it not weaken one's conviction that they might disregard others that can and would be of detriment to others - especially children. I don't believe therefore that walking naked in public is right - not on the street wear you or I live... and not in a Pride parade. It can't be right in one place and wrong in another any more than it's OK to pee in one corner of a pool and not in others.
I am glad though that you are feeling better. Today is too beautiful a day to feel sick.
Fr. Tim
Bob Borne would often express the same repulsive aversion to male nudity until he was forced to reveal publicly that it wasn’t the sight of a nude man that caused his stomach to reject his meals, it was rather the rejection of a deep desire to have and to hold.
DeleteSo Tim and Michael needless to say your claims are not convincing for most of us.
I have'nt mentioned fanasies anywhere. The desire I am talking about is an unconscious one because that part of you , you reject. It's not lunch, it'you. The only language the unconscious knows is metaphor.
Sick to the core, and only in a Gay Pride event can they get away with breaking the law. The pendulum of power has truly swung the other way, with the once persecuted gays lording it over us and flaunting any sense of decency. Why?
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Bob Borne would often express the same repulsive aversion to male nudity until he was forced to reveal publicly that it wasn’t the sight of a nude man that caused his stomach to reject his meals, it was rather the rejection of a deep desire to have and to hold.
ReplyDeleteSo Tim and Michael needless to say your claims are not convincing for most of us.
I suspect my other two comments were a little to disturbing for you to post. Please Fr. Tim don't give me the 'lost in the mail' line again! You post your response to comments that you don't post.
ReplyDeleteLarry: A couple of points: A) The comments you reference didn't disturb me. They weren't posted until now because the internet was down for me from last night until this afternoon when the company repaired the transmission tower in front of my house. As soon as I was online again, I saw them and posted them.
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B) I did so despite the fact that you were trying to insinuate that I was no different than B. Borne. That's what I would refer to as a slime ball move. I am not him and stand in wonderment that you would allege that I shared a similar perverse character as his when you know it's not the case. Are you not capable of disagreeing with someone without becoming disagreeable?
And finally as an additional aside, I have posted every single comment you've ever offered here, even the personally insulting ones like todays. If I told you that one comment never made it to me, then it didn't make it to me. There's no need to impugn my honesty as well as my character. The only person who I block from this site is a troll who goes by the name of Johnny Vo (and other aliases as well). His offerings are vile, hateful, and incipit to the extreme and everything he offers gets caught my the spam rules I've set up for this blog. While he is persisent, he is not very creative and the filter sends anything with his usual phraseology into the spam folder. But I have never refused to post anything you have offered, nor do I intend to in the future - unless that is you devolve into the pathetic excuse of a poster like that poor troll.
I trust I have made myself clear and disavowed you of any illusions about me that you've been harboring in the dark corners of your mind.
Fr. Tim
For someone who is not disturbed , one would not know by the tone of your response here. No one at least not I has ever implied that there was no difference between you and Bob Borne nor have I even nearly suggested that you share the same 'perverse character.' The slime is in the inferences you make , there is no ‘slime ball’ move to be had. There are similarities though and the one in particular is that you are both sickened by the sight of nude males, I used Bob Borne as an example to illustrate the point -that the revulsion stems from an inward aversion to a part of yourself - because we all know now that his aversions toward nude males was really an aversion to a part of his inner self. This is not a newly discovered phenomena in the science of psychology , it is in fact well known and well understood. Doesn’t mean that all such unrealized desire results in perverse behaviour (as you very quickly summized) is the case with Borne but it explains the driving force behind dangerous behaviour such as bullying, hate, bigotry, taunting and just in general mean spirited injustice to fellow human beings. It explains also why it’s necessary for some people to perceive themselves and their groups as being better than others who are different.
ReplyDeleteI don’t know what goes on in the dark corners of my mind , that’s why they are there. You have made yourself clearer than perhaps you would have liked to but I don’t think that there are any illusions to disavow me of. I don’t think that you are a pervert , never have thought that and I don’t think that is an illusion. I do ,however,think that many of your posts that dengrate others are based on fear. I respect most of what you do but surely not all and I hope that is mutual.
You continue to disagree in whatever way you like to and I’ll disagree in the way that way I like to.
For someone who is not disturbed one would not know by the tone of your response here. No one at least not I ever implied that there was no difference between you and Bob Borne nor have I even nearly suggested that you share the same 'perverse character.' The slime is in the inferences you make , there is no ‘slime ball’ move to be had. There are similarities though and the one in particular is that you are both sickened by the sight of nude males, I used Bob Borne as an example to illustrate the point -that the revulsion stems from an inward aversion to a part of yourself - because we all know now that his aversions toward nude males was really an aversion to a part of his inner self. This is not a newly discovered phenomena in the science of psychology , it is in fact well known and well understand. Doesn’t mean that all such unrealized desire results in perverse behaviour as is the case with Borne but it explains the driving force behind dangerous behaviour such as bullying, hate, bigotry, taunting and just in general mean spirited injustice to fellow human beings. It explains also why it’s necessary for some people to perceive themselves and their groups as being better than others who are different.
I don’t what goes on in the dark corners of my mind , that’s why they are there. You have made yourself clearer than perhaps you would have liked to but I don’t think that there are any illusions to disavow me of. I don’t think that you are a pervert , never have thought that and I don’t think that is an illusion. I respect most of what you do but surely not all and I believe the same is mutual. You continue to disagree in whatever way you like to and I’ll disagree in the way that way I like to.